I don't think he would want to fade back even if he could...
Schopenhauer wrote:But, above all, anonymity, that shield of all literary rascality, would have to disappear. It was introduced under the pretext of protecting the honest critic, who warned the public, against the resentment of the author and his friends. But where there is one case of this sort, there will be a hundred where it merely serves to take all responsibility from the man who cannot stand by what he has said, or possibly to conceal the shame of one who has been cowardly and base enough to recommend a book to the public for the purpose of putting money into his own pocket. Often enough it is only a cloak for covering the obscurity, incompetence and insignificance of the critic. It is incredible what impudence these fellows will show, and what literary trickery they will venture to commit, as soon as they know they are safe under the shadow of anonymity.
So I don't think coming forward with his real name was a mistake for Roosh, and we will need many more people to follow that example in the future if we are to push back against Clown World effectively.Schopenahuer wrote:Anonymity is the refuge for all literary and journalistic rascality. It is a practice which must be completely stopped. Every article, even in a newspaper, should be accompanied by the name of its author; and the editor should be made strictly responsible for the accuracy of the signature. The freedom of the press should be thus far restricted; so that when a man publicly proclaims through the far-sounding trumpet of the newspaper, he should be answerable for it, at any rate with his honor, if he has any; and if he has none, let his name neutralize the effect of his words. And since even the most insignificant person is known in his own circle, the result of such a measure would be to put an end to two-thirds of the newspaper lies, and to restrain the audacity of many a poisonous tongue.
I don't think there's a recipe beyond taking it one day at a time. Merely the fact that Roosh has so far managed to sustain himself financially for over a decade on "this sort of platform", shows that it can be done. Peterson is another good example, because he has become a downright millionaire off of it--though of course he's less extreme than Roosh, which is why he became a millionaire. And of course Trump became president on more or less exactly the same platform.
shemp wrote:If you want my real opinion as to where Roosh went astray, it's the obsession with idiotic one-dimensional measuring himself by notch and flag counts, as idiotic and one-dimensional as all the other numbers people use to measure themselves: rep count, likes received, dick size, net worth, countries visited. (Speaking of which, please do not rep me or like my posts. I utterly despise those features of MyBB.) Folks, quality is what matters, not quantity. If Roosh had focused on the quality of the girls he had relationships with, rather than mindlessly trying to up his notch and flag counts, maybe he wouldn't feel so empty now.
Slow but steady physical exercise is extremely important to mental health for many men. By this I mean neither cardio nor weight bearing exercise, but rather things like hiking, gardening, chopping wood, manual labor of any sort. Sitting at a desk all day monitoring RVF and then hanging around bars at night trying to up his notch count, is ultimate going to cause a man's mind to be affected. I think this is part of what caused Roosh's recent hallucinations about talking to God. The mushroom trip might also have been a factor: drugs and alcohol are both a bad idea, as you younger guys will eventually discover.
My most recent banning from RVF was because I got exasperated by some closet case having a gay panic meltdown at the idea that a man who marries a non virgin is effectively rubbing penises against other men who've used the girl's vagina previously, and that he is effectively kissing other men's penises when he kisses the mouth of a girl who previously sucked some other guy. The fact that Roosh was indulging this nitwit in a serious forum conversation caused me to lose my temper. I suggested that the ideal wife for Roosh would be an escort with 1000+ notch count, but still young and pretty, who was sick of whoring and wanted to start a family. Now yes, I was trolling but there actually is some wisdom there. I'm assuming Roosh does indeed want a family and has indeed become a devout Christian. A man like him is just not fit for a virgin. A man should marry his equal. If you've been a man whore and have reformed, then you should marry a woman whore who has reformed.
His latest book, Lady, I haven't read, but the description is truly cringe worthy. As for the book prior to that, Game, I did read that and reviewed it on his site, trying to be nice and see the positive side, which is that it provides consolation to loser guys that being a winner guy isn't all that great after all, and if the choice is between doing all the shit Roosh does to get laid versus wanking to porn, well hey, wanking looks pretty damn appealing. Roosh's "game" reminds me of selling fruit cakes door to door as one of the requirements for my Boy Scout's salesmanship merit badge. (I'm a older guy, you understand, and teenage boys actually could knock on stranger's doors in the 1970's without causing the police to show up.) Pushing a product that no one wants. If I'm not mistaken, I believe Roosh even suggests that "foot in the door" trick, so that the girl (on his case) or prospective fruit cake buyer (in my case) can't slam the door until you've finished your sales spiel. Roosh isn't a bad looking guy and, as I understand it, his standards for women's beauty aren't unreasonable. If he hadn't been such a fanatic misogynistic with these double standards that said man-slut okay but woman-slut not okay, and hadn't been so obsessed with notch and flag counts, maybe it wouldn't have been so difficult to get laid.
I was actually relieved to be banned that last time because it's such a PITA hanging out on a forum where the slightest misstep leads to a permanent ban. 99% of the time I'm a calm guy. But occasionally, I lose it and out comes a stream of "fuckwit, fucktard, fuckhead" and similiar expressions reflecting my general intelligence and skills with the English language not. Does an occasional outburst really merit a permanent ban?
If Roosh and his followers think they can affect the course of world history, they are sadly mistaken. History has a mind of its own. The direction the world is going is clearly unsustainable (exploding populations in Africa, in particular) and so change will occur eventually, but those who think they are leading this change are in fact just people who spotted a parade already in progress and then ran to the front of the parade. If you personally want to be part of the parade, whether at the front or in the middle or at the rear, by all means do so. However, the parade is going to continue with or without you, so if you don't want to participate, go do what you want to do, like living a life of unbridled hedonism like me.
And yes, I'm a monger now that I'm old and can't get what I want for free. Always had to keep that hidden over at RVF. And the crazy thing is, promotion of mongering is actually the best way to maintain the moral society Roosh and his followers say they want. Instead of corrupting all girls, men share a small number of corrupted girls and leave the others alone. Bible even approves of certain whores. Whore who helped the Jews break into Jericho. Whore Esther who saved the Jews from extermination. Etc.
Probably other things I could say, but enough for now.
This was my first thought when I saw his no bang discussion thread. I was surprised to see so many people coming out in support of him because it was pure clown world to me.
Everyone is moving on, and so are we. This is just one thread in an entire forum dedicated to discussing what happened to Roosh without fear of being banned. Roosh has been laughing at the expense of the mentally deranged liberals for years, so when HE finally lost the plot, I don’t think it’s inappropriate for us to have a good laugh at his expense. In any case, it can’t be helped—the situation is hilarious.