Bortimus wrote: ↑
Mon May 27, 2019 9:12 pm
Would you say the shift from 3 to 4 came with Charlottesville or Trump's pro-Israel State of the Union? Those seemed to be the two biggest events that took a lot of steam out of the alt right.
I think after C'ville, there was still some hope in electoral politics (e.g. through the campaigns of guys like Patrick Little) and in trolling the media. Also, Trump's response to C'ville gave some hope that maybe he wasn't going to totally cuck out. Even after the media attacked him, he stuck to his guns and said they were misrepresenting what he said. I'd say his 2019 SOTU was about the point at which we transitioned to clown world.
But C'ville did deter the Alt-Right from doing more major rallies, as they saw the police were going to side with Antifa. So in that sense, it served as a political black pill.
Culturally, 2018 saw a lot of setbacks, as guys in the manosphere reported that game was getting harder and harder, and the shut-it-downing continued to be ratcheted up. 2018 was also when the incelosphere peaked, causing "the black pill" to enter the mainstream lexicon. For that reason, it would be hard to say that the black pill era began any earlier than 2018.
In 2018, we saw the "big baller" part of the manosphere fading away as guys' morale slipped. The fact that Roosh is closing up the fornication shop is partly a reflection of, and response to, that; if his business hadn't peaked, maybe he'd have been able to score a decent wife by now by betabuxxing.
Another way in which Roosh got blackpilled was that, after he got kicked off of PayPal, Disqus, and Amazon, and couldn't make up for it by accepting cryptocurrencies and switching to alternative platforms, he realized the support of his community was no match for groups like the SPLC. Perhaps what he's doing now is a punishment of his community for not doing more to get him through that troubled time.