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Leucosticte wrote:Maybe Roosh was the right guy to try to create a forum like RVF because in his relative humility, he didn't intimidate guys by being more of a big baller than they aspired or professed to be. They cut him some slack when he was kinda whiny because it made them look good in comparison. But you can see how weak, e.g., these Swoop the World guys really are, in that they find your forum threatening and think it's going to draw away traffic or something, even though they say they don't even want to cover the topic of politics.
The interesting thing about Swoop, that everyone is ignoring, is that the forum has already failed once. It's been up for two years, with 1000+ users, but before the influx of RVF refugees a few days ago it was dead. Only the Travel forum had good content, like the travel forums of countless "swooping" sites. There was nothing special about it.
So it's naive to think that the influx of RVFers will change things, since the management that tanked the previous iteration of the forum is the same, and making the same mistakes. Because it's not just "politics" that they are banning or discouraging, it's basically every deep subject of discussion. If you want deep discussion, you need deep thinkers, but if you tell them NO POLITICS--especially in an age when half the valid subjects are political, and the other half BLEED INTO politics anyway if you pursue their analysis deeply enough--you're essentially telling all these people to piss off and outlawing their thinking. No politics means no depth, and all you're left with is some "location-independent" "online marketing" sex addicted monkeys who think that because a moron met another moron in real life and patted each other in the back, they're both suddenly "legit" and their dumb lowbrow opinions somehow acquire value.
So yes, a community depends on its members for the content, but it depends on the leader for the DIRECTION, which Roosh just spectacularly demonstrated by singlehandedly self-destructing the community he led. And the same holds true for Swoop. They failed before, and they will fail again to create a good community, because they are morons, and a billion new members won't be able to change that, anymore than dozens of protesting RVF members managed to dissuade Roosh from pressing the self-destruct button.
And I TOLD the damn dudes, I told them in my first post in that stupid forum, to not place any restrictions on subject matter, because that's how RVF became what it is. YOU CAN'T RESTRICT THE THINKING OF THE THINKERS, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE ACTUAL THINKERS. THINKING DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY YOU FACKING RETARDED LITTLE PUA NERDS!
Oh well. It is what it is I guess. Back to work then making this place great again.